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Don't Ban the Can

16 AUG 2008 | Posted By: F5D15B2F

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I’m sure you’ve seen the signs, and no Jesus is most definitely not coming – I’m talking about the new anti-graffiti laws banning the possession of a spray can. This means that if you have purchased a can of spray paint, no matter what the reason, if you have it on you in ‘public’ then the police can fine you $550 on the spot! Pretty scary huh? Aside from the fact that it is ridiculous to assume that anyone who carries a spray can around is talented enough to produce art with it, this law is also taking a stab at one of Melbourne’s big draw cards. We are now known around the world for our awesome graffiti, street art culture, and ‘open air’ exhibitions. I mean just look at the images here, and these are just a very small sample of what can be found around the city in laneways and hidden corners.

Well luckily for us Batman, there is someone out there trying to do something about it. Don’t Ban the Can is a north-side exhibition and event, which aims to raise awareness of just how counter productive this ‘can banning’ law actually is. Featuring the work of around 200 local and international artists, the exhibition will take place at the end of September, and organisers are now calling on artists to submit an original A3 work for consideration, possibly to be included in the exhibition.

For more information or to submit to the exhibition visit dontbanthecan.com.

Anti Graffiti Laws: The Fast Facts
POSSESSING A ‘PRESCRIBED GRAFFITI IMPLEMENT’ (section 7)
This means a spray paint can. You CAN be charged with this offence: If you are near or on public transport, you have a spray paint can on you or in your bag, car etc. It’s no excuse that you weren’t going to do graffiti. It is an excuse if you are using it for a job or trade but you’ll have to prove it. You can expect to receive an on-the-spot fine of $550 or more OR maximum fine of 25 penalty points ($2,750).

SEARCHES (without warrant)
Police have expanded special search powers to search anyone 14 or over who is on or near to public transport for spray paint cans. Police can inspect your bag, ask you to remove a coat, hat and shoes and do a ‘pat down’ search.

For more info on this out-of-touch badly thought out initiative head to justice.vic.gov.au/graffiti.

Some images from melbournegraffiti.com.

EDITOR'S NOTE: The Don't Ban the Can peaceful protest has been changed. It's still September 20th, but it's now at Clifton Park, Victoria Street, Brunswick. Play nice and don't act like a fucktard, you'll ruin the whole plan. More at the Don't Ban the Can User Feed.
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There are "62" comment(s) on "Don't Ban the Can"

Advanced Member lutece
Why don't they designate laneways, and such, where graff artists can freely work their magic..?!
lutece  -  3 years ago
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Respect pashoncoop
Great Idea Lutece kind of like the Cans Festival.
pashoncoop  -  3 years ago
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Respect Ryzz
Get an ABN saying you're an artist or designer and you'll be fine. While I agree that these laws are a terrible abuse of due process (you're presumed guilty until proven innocent... wtf?), the silver lining is that it'll separate the dedicated artists from the wannabes. If it's in your blood no law will ever stop you...
Ryzz  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
thats it ryz. if your painting a train, your painting a fuckin train. These sorts of laws won't stop your Bones's or Vosco's. Or even the puzle's and porno's. It's just draconian bullshit. Hit the little fish harder.
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
stupid stupid shit. Really gets my goat. For example I used to work at a hobby store selling toy soldiers ( I am a massive nerd by the way) and now you have to ask for ID when a kid buys a can of Skull white to paint his soldiers. And he can get fined on his way home. just flat out stupid.
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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Miro you are amongst friends here, this is a safe place, I won't start talking about my hobbies, or Star Trek Next Gen collection. Anyway, this is simply ridiculous, and the hobby store scenario is the first of many. I guess it then just comes down to if you look like a writer, you dress like a writer and you get caught with paint, then you get fined. I would just keep a whole lot of toy soldiers in my backpack with a shopping list and detailed instructions, surely that would hold up in court... Surely.
Jamie  -  3 years ago
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I look forward to the day when someone challenges this law in court, becuase it is totally unconstitutional and will never hold up. All we need is a precedent.
Ryzz  -  3 years ago
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a while ago i tried to create some discussion between major "players" if you will, in the melbourne scene about this to no avail. the general consistence was if you dont have your pens or cans out you wont get trouble, and that a law like this cant stop whats happening. its already illegal and making it more illegal wont change a thing. i agree with that. the fuck up issue i have is that its just a cover to be able to search any mother fucker the cops want. fuck that shit. what happened to innocent until proven guilty??? fucking totalitarian bullshit. wy dont the just CCTV the whole city??? We will just need to wait till some rich grammar student decides hes going to study the Graffiti scene for his VCE studio art folio and buys a can and gets dicked. then his parent pay for a super QC and gets the shit thrown out of court and people see the stupidness of the laws.
NOTORIOUSJAY  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
I agree J. Real Graf will never die. It was born out of oppression, thrives in the nooks and crannies of city's and legal systems and despite the Man, Graf will continue to ascend. It took photography almost a century to be a respected artform. Graf will win out.
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
really makes me angry though.
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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Senior Member TheFrag
People that have the real passion for graffin will continue and do there thing. as for the fuk nuckles that cruise around taging in daylight and acting like fukheads i hope they fuk up and kop out of the scene and let the real artist express and process what its all about. If the image of the artists is dirty then so the people will see there art as dirt.
TheFrag  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
Nothing wrong with dirt. graff comes from dirt man, taggin is just as legit as piecing. Plenty of wicked writers started with markers.
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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Senior Member 6EFFD11A
Their efforts will be futile. Melbourne graffiti scene is much larger than the cops. This new law just gives artist more fuel to go out there and express themselves. And rightly so, we don't live in a communist society so don't introduce communist laws upon it's people. Street art is what makes Melbourne so interesting and exiting to live in.
6EFFD11A  -  3 years ago
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Senior Member 6EFFD11A
I'm sure if you painted an impressionist mural on a street wall, there would be no problem, it's because these stupid narrow minded dickheads have not recognized this new art revolution as credible art. Melbourne street art is going down in history. in 20 years, future generations will be studding this in school and uni. Also the stupidly rich and powerful have not found a way to cash in on this art and never will. If they could this would not be a topic of discussion or a "problem" for the police. It's also another revenue making scheme for the police. Speed cameras aren't bringing in enough money for them anymore. People of Melbourne have wised up.
6EFFD11A  -  3 years ago
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Senior Member 6EFFD11A
...also agree with FBS mindless tagging is not considered as art to me. especially those who tag over great graffiti art. Total disrespect.
6EFFD11A  -  3 years ago
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Respect NOTORIOUSJAY
tags is where it came from. for some its still about getting up city wide. i love that calligraphy tags thats been rocking lately. amazing typography.
NOTORIOUSJAY  -  3 years ago
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I'm also surprised that most if not all of the outcry is coming from the (street) art community, when in fact this sort of erosion of civil liberties affects everyone. I guess people are scared to be labelled as "vandal sympathisers" if they speak out about it. And this is only the start of it - do you know that the government is planning to introduce nation-wide ISP level internet filtering? The official line is that it's to stop child pornography, but with people like Steve Fielding holding the balance of power who knows what sort of slippery slope this will lead down... I've been writing letters to any politician whose address I can get hold of, but pretty much no one I've talked to has even HEARD of this plan. It's getting beyond ridiculous.
Ryzz  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
sure you can separate tags from pieces. But what about stickers? stencils? I knew a bloke that would strip the upholstery off couch cushions and dip em in paint and use them like massive markers. All graf is graf, whether liked or not it tagging is a part of the whole.
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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New Lounger 9D4A8005
meanwhile th couter-productive councils spend money to remove graffiti and 'clean' the city they are giving out thousdands in grants for projects such as 'welcome to cocker alley'. Look it up. either you want to support street cuture and urdban art or you dont. Why waste taxpapers money cleaning of free graffiti only to pay another artits thousands to 'beutify' the ally in a way of their choosing?
9D4A8005  -  3 years ago
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It's guilt by association guys. People who tag are put in the same bag as "artists" and people with talent who create legitimately cool pieces. That bag has the words VANDAL ironically spray painted on the side of it.
freeak  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member motherbitch
Yawn- Everyone's an expert.
motherbitch  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
I am no expert motherbitch, my arrogance about the topic comes from my passion. I can feel grafitti stirring in my loin.
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
more specifically LOINS.
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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There will never be an answer.
Jamie  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
I dont have an answer, but I have a perspective that might help. Graff doesn't gain legitimacy purely because puzle or daim pr whoever is awesome at it. Judging graff piece by piece, tag by tag only fuels personal "I like" based arguments. Resurfacing walls, whether paint, chalk, ink scratch or paper is grafitti. You make the personal choice whether "Grafitti" is a valid form of art or not. Then come what may all graf is judged by the same decision.
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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Senior Member tobler1
What a bunch of Toy Cunts. Just cos they got scratchied.
tobler1  -  3 years ago
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Respect Ryzz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principles_of_art & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elements_of_art. There shouldn't even be any debate over whether graffiti is art or not.
Ryzz  -  3 years ago
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Respect NOTORIOUSJAY
i dont really think whether this is art is the issue, its the legality of the form.
NOTORIOUSJAY  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
art or media?
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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Jay: just about every anti-graffiti argument I've ever heard has been based on either: a) "It's not art because it's illegal" or b) "It's not art because it's ugly".
Ryzz  -  3 years ago
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i cant stand the "It's not art because it's illegal" bullshit. if Jackson Pollock was around today and did a painting on the side of a building or station it would be a national treasure and a tourism piece. but then again, so is all the graf in Melbourne. Another thing, this is from a council that used the work by Phibs in its Thats Melbourne T.V and print campaign but will give him a fine for creating it.
NOTORIOUSJAY  -  3 years ago
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Senior Member 6EFFD11A
Don't you just love a passionate argument? I love all your comments. All of you have legitimate opinions. Show your support September 20th at Jewell Station. Brusnswick for "Don't ban the Can"
6EFFD11A  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
then can we drink beers and trash the station? I am going to write "Notorious_jay was born in a tent!" with a dulux flat black. It will be awesome.
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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Respect NOTORIOUSJAY
HA HA! i do wonder if the next day after the opening of the show, will the area will be heavily bombed? that will REALLY help here cause. nothing makes yo want to paint more that seeing A grade work.
NOTORIOUSJAY  -  3 years ago
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Sweet, I'll see you there guys! I'll be the guy wearing $600 worth of designer clothes, painting with my $15 Molotow cans.
Ryzz  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
I wil be the bloke grinking as many free/cheap Melbourne bitters as possible, Blank hoodie, markers, kangol hat.
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
*drinking*
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member motherbitch
Did anybody actually READ all Jo's words?
motherbitch  -  3 years ago
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Respect NOTORIOUSJAY
*and 26RED jeans listening to a dubbed cassette of 36 Chambers
NOTORIOUSJAY  -  3 years ago
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Respect Katie
I had completely forgotten about 26 Red until that very second. Hilarious.
Katie  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
what about a 26red hoodie! I have one of those.
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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Respect Ryzz
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24209371-2862,00.html
Ryzz  -  3 years ago
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Respect Katie
Ha! "Graffiti Hurts Australia" Scott Hilditch would be the worst dinner party guest ever.
Katie  -  3 years ago
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New Lounger mowgli
ryz, why don't you write a letter to a dodgy current affairs program (re: 7 & 9) about the ISP thing? They love controversy. Or at least making some up where there isnt any. Either way. I can just hear Anna Cohren's (her and her show shits me but I still want to pants her heaps) freakishly deep slightly smokey voice now "hard working orstrayleeun families are soon to be the targets of a 1984 big brother intrusion. blah blah government will stop you looking at porn blah blah anti terrorism waffle waffle waffle I want beren in my pants" the end. oh yeah, and this anti-graffiti law stuff is lame. I remember both times I was melbourne thinking how cool the artwork was in some of the laneways. too bad I could never find them again. why does melbourne have the coolest things down the hardest laneways to find again?
mowgli  -  3 years ago
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Respect NOTORIOUSJAY
because we want to keep it from visitors.
NOTORIOUSJAY  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member 0722A51C
yes some graffiti is art, but most of the time it isn't, there's heaps of stupid kids/teenagers who think they're making 'art' by just scribbling their name or 'tag' on every single thing you see. you can't say it's art. walking through melbourne i feel angry when i see a good piece of grafitti ruined by some dick head's tag written all over it. it's like putting my name on the mona lisa. fuck them. unless you're talented, i'd say don't bother graffiting. there needs to be some way to filter out the shit grafitti and the good ones.
0722A51C  -  3 years ago
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ohnonotrose, everyone starts at the bottom. I agree that kids should stick to drains, etc before hitting the streets, but that's never gonna happen. The destruction of pieces is also essential to the ephemeral cycle of graffiti - if no one capped/slashed walls they wouldn't be repainted out of respect for the artist and the scene would become stagnant.
Ryzz  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member Diego
So what do people think of "scratchfitti" then? Its tagging regardless of what method is used..would you classify it as art? I fucken hate it..hate hate hate. Nothing is worst than seeing a window full of toy scratches. Its ugly and most times the lettering is so wack it makes me cry. Yet its now considered an element of "graff"if you ask the next gen of artists. Art or crap?
Diego  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member Diego
capping a piece is one thing as thats how battles started in the old dats. But adding your tag next to the original creator of the piece to give yourself props is worst than capping i rekon. And most kids do it these days. But hey its not their fault when they are sorrounded by images and marketing that encourages the whole notion of 15 mins of fame and you don't have to be talented to be famous ideolgy. They are essentially a product of modern society and graff to me is more about "fashion" than art these days. Its preety shit.
Diego  -  3 years ago
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Advanced Member miro-classic
you cant lay down rules on how to "TAG". THats one of the main points of the whole thing. Graff is a beautiful part of our cities. Completely, even the individual pieces of shit vandalism/tags/scratchies, are a part of a larger thing. THat all ecnompassing power is awesome, goes beyond ruling excepting of course, you can rule with wicked skills.
miro-classic  -  3 years ago
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New Lounger C9C898A6
Im new to melbourne, and come from auckland where we have minimal street art. The first thing which made me fall in love with Melbourne city is the amazing art i keep finding everywhere.. so you can count on my support to make sure that the exsquisite street culture in melbourne doesnt vanish due to some beurocratic leeches... peace Dylan see you on the 20th
C9C898A6  -  3 years ago
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Senior Member futuretron
Could this Brumby guy be any more of a brainless dick. Hey Brumby NO ONE ELECTED YOU. I HOPE YOU REALISE THAT NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND IS GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU. http://www.theage.com.au/national/writings-on-wall-and-for-brumby-its-the-blight-of-day-20080930-4r8e.html?page=1
futuretron  -  3 years ago
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Senior Member futuretron
Do read this article: http://www.theage.com.au/national/writings-on-wall-and-for-brumby-its-the-blight-of-day-20080930-4r8e.html?page=1
futuretron  -  3 years ago
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Respect Jamie
Thanks for the link Futuretron, he is a TOOL.
Jamie  -  3 years ago
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New Lounger CF81CA2C
just an outsiders question: who determines where this artwork is acceptable? Is your mum's new brick garden wall OK for my art? How do we as a community resolve a disagreement?
CF81CA2C  -  2 years ago
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Respect Jamie
No one gets to decide where it is ok. That's the point of Graffitti.
Jamie  -  2 years ago
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Your mum's brick wall, a train, a van, it's the artist's choice. And, as a community, we still haven't managed to resolve disagreements about graffiti because, like so many forms of art, it divides and challenges people.
Katie  -  2 years ago
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Advanced Member Miro
My mum's brick wall will fricken burn your mum's brick wall. ANYTIME.
Miro  -  2 years ago
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New Lounger CF81CA2C
OK thanks. Jamie, you have explained an awful lot i didn't understand until now.
CF81CA2C  -  2 years ago
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New Lounger CF81CA2C
I am in my own small way no mean artist, tho mainly of the BS variety. Am I able to add to/modify graffitti to suit whichever of my artistic tastes or capabilities is to the fore at the time I pick up my can or brush? ? Does that fit the model of complete artistic freedom that I must say seems so beguiing?
CF81CA2C  -  2 years ago
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Hi John, pleasure. Glad to be of assistance. I'm not qualified to answer your questions, as I was never an artist in the sense that this topic covers. However there are people on this site who are the most respected graffiti artists in the country & often globally. The thing is, they wouldn't bother answering either, as your questions seem loaded to me. They also seem like questions that an artist wouldn't ever even contemplate asking. More like a journo who is trying to get some quotes for an article... Happens a lot around here. PS: it's beguiling, not beguiing.
Jamie  -  2 years ago
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Advanced Member Miro
loaded? I couldn't even understand it.
Miro  -  2 years ago
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